Valerie
Not from me. My characters are the softer ones. That was why writing as a duo was great. He has one voice, I have another.
Kristopher
I spent a brief time in the Army when I was younger. A lot of the lessons and the lingo just kind of stick around
Valerie
Brief because he used to have a taking orders issue. Marriage fixed that!
Kristopher
Third times a charm
LOL, I hear marriage is good like that I get the military thing. I got a brother 20+ years in. Even when he's home it's just there. Did you split the characters down, or divvy up by gender? As to who handled whom?
Kristopher
We each came up with a few characters. We talked about major plot points and just sort of wrote around each character
Valerie
Well, really it started with me writing a chapter. Then he sat down and wrote Daniel's first chapter as a joke. I loved it!
Kristopher
That first line was probably some of my best work
It's a great opener!!! Well it lends each character a very distinctive voice. I worked with a partner for a long time and we use to actually talk out the character conversations. Did you find yourself doing that when your characters would cross paths?
Valerie
Absolutely. When we beta tested the only advice we got was to put him first.
Kristopher
Max and the Rev are good examples. Val wrote Max and the Rev was one of mine. If a character crossed paths, we talked out what that character would do in a given situation with each other just so they would stay consistent. There wasn't much overlap in the first book though. Since everything is POV, consistency was really important. If Daniel was talking to Max, he had to be talking to Val's Max and vice versa. If that makes sense.
Absolutely. I completely understand. You two must have had a great time, most of the time. But why in a market that is saturated in Zombies right now, did you decide to write something like Aftershock?
Valerie
We did it because we enjoyed talking the situations out. If you enjoy something, you don't care if it is one of many. It became a thing that we did together. Something that was separate from raising kids, work, and daily nonsense. Then we finished it, and thought, let's publish.
Kristopher
I've been a fan of the genre since I was 13. Had Val not started, I probably never would have, but its a subject I am very familiar with. Five or six years ago, I was the weird guy in the upstairs apartment preparing for Zombie Apocalypse.
Valerie
Not me. I couldn't even watch scary movies before Kris was there to sit with me. I am a GIANT scaredy cat.
Kristopher
Valerie
Remember how I used to watch the first episodes. Mixture of face in your shoulder, and hands over eyes
Kristopher
Then we'd have sex. Wait.. Can you edit that out lol
Valerie
Six kids. I am sure people know.
You stuck it, I publish it!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Seems you two really complement each other! Both in life and work. That's great, I've enjoyed my time working with Will Van Stone Jr. it's sometimes harder when you don't have someone to be bouncing ideas off of.
Valerie
We get along so well, it is kinda disgusting. We both came from really bad past relationships, so the bar was really low. It is weird when you find out what you were missing that whole time.
Kristopher
It helps with the writers block
Valerie
He got me started on book two just by starting himself. I can't let him do it alone!
That's sooo sweett...
Valerie
Between bouts of sarcasm we can be gooey.
Kristopher
She has a great rack.
Valerie
See what I mean!
He makes me laugh. That's important.
Kristopher
What? Its true. You should see her dumper It would make a bishop kick out a stained glass window
Maybe I should just talk about the book...
The pic I have doesn't prove it, Kristopher. Remember pictures or it didn't happen... LOL
Valerie
Not helping Shannon.
Butt...
Kristopher
I still have the pic you sent while I was down in Jacksonville. Should I post it?
Valerie
I am going to ban him from the computer.
Sorry, yeah about the book...... AFTERSHOCK....
Kristopher
Then good luck figuring out how Ian gets back from Virginia See how I brought it back around?
Valerie
Do you finish the books after all this stuff is done?
Kristopher
I was wondering that myself
If I have the entire manuscript and I liked the book. I was bummed when it stopped in the middle of finding out about test subject 64-03 <- I may be off there.
Valerie
I will send you the rest. If you have time, have at it!
Kristopher
He becomes a main character
Valerie
Yeah, she probably wonders who Ian is...
Very cool, but don't kill it for me!!
Kristopher
Kristopher 
So they end up where the flyer is and its full of cannibals. Just like the Walking Dead
I wasn't kidding when I said that the story of Max and Rocky was heart-wrenching, I am glad he's not like "Carl" having to be looked after.
Valerie
They do not!
Kristopher
Max is pretty bad ass,! He was one of Val's
Valerie
My thought with kids in this kind of situation, is they are either able to survive alone, or they don't. Even if they are with adults. They can't be dead weights, or they will be dead. That is why he is from a farm. He is used to hard work, and being on his own.
Yeah, he would be as an adult the fact that he's a 9 y/o makes it even better but it made sense, coming from the farm country he'd know how to shoot, camp, all the good stuff.
Valerie
I liked writing from his perspective. He sees the world differently than an adult. He doesn't over think the situations. I see that as an asset.
And William another child, he came across a touch autistic, I thought that was interesting, most writers doing horror don't want to complicate things by having a real spectrum of characters.
Valerie
That was all Kris. I thought it was brilliant.
Kristopher
He's actually in his 20's.
I only had the one small chapter with him, so that's a surprise, but obviously for a reason.
Kristopher
I thought it would be interesting to write from the perspective of somebody dealing with intensely complex emotional situations with a complete lack of emotions. I have know idea where that came from... He has a few more later in the book
What was your favorite scene that the other wrote? Other than the opener.
Valerie
Damn it! That was my pick!
HA! HA! HA ! No cheap repeat!
Kristopher
I liked Wayne and not just because she mentioned me by name in that chapter. The chapter were Hannah gets killed. Its a completely heartbreaking moment that comes out of nowhere and I think Val did an amazing job writing it
Valerie
Okay, the Rev's first chapter was intense. The way they went after his wife. the rage he felt. The questioning his faith. I loved it, and definitely could not have written it. That was the best part about writing together. He would take the story places I would never think to go.
Yeah, Hanna was unexpected, and the visual was right there in your head. I was like fuck me what, wait did they just.... Oy! Balls through the walls, that's what it's like to have a writing partner.
Kristopher
Especially since she is very closely based on one of our daughters
Valerie
It is so hard for me to write scenes like that. I am a people pleaser. I spend all day sweet and sugar, and then writing I have to kill people. It is painful. It was easy to make a visual when you have a real person to base it off of.
Yeah, I wondered about the kids int the book, seeing as you have them from baby to teen. You have plenty of research right here in front of you.
Kristopher
Liam, would be awesome during Zombie Apocalypse
Valerie
All of my characters are loosely based off of someone I have known. Even the adults. They are not exact copies, but they share some things.
Kristopher
Hes our five year old and hes tough as shit
Valerie
Yeah he would. He would bite zombies and they would become Liams.
You do realize shit isn't tough unless your a rabbit... LOL But I get your meanings! LOL
Kristopher
It's a local colloquialism
Valerie
You and your big words.
I was gonna say that!!
Kristopher
Fuckin' a
Pbtt!
Kristopher
With all the profanity I have to prove that don't have a limited vocabulary
you should see me at board meetings
I've read the work, I now that you at least own a thesaurus.
Valerie
I doubt he used one. Me, on the other hand.
Kristopher
I know at least 500 ways to use FUCK in a sentence
So you are working on the second..... Fuck is it's own sentence.
Valerie
Wait! So do I! But that is a standard 6th grade lesson in NJ.
Yup, same in Connecticut
Kristopher
We started it about a month or so ago. Once we started getting positive feedback about the first book. The biggest complaint we've gotten, other than the lack of geography, is about the ending
Valerie
We had a really good brainstorming session the other day. I feel good about where we are going.
DON"T YOU DARE TELL ME
Valerie
We won't. It is abrupt though. That is due to it being a series. Always leave them wanting more.
I love Google Maps in satellite for places I've never been, it helps a lot As to geography
Kristopher
I was referring to a specific review we got on [redacted for author & reviewer protection] Val knows which one, we should have spent more time talking about the town's LOL
Valerie
He doesn't like criticism he doesn't understand. Feedback should help you grow, not confuse.
You mean the idiot about the inste (<- reviewer spelling not mine) to towns?
Kristopher
Yep. misused apostrophes are confusing
Valerie
I hear even bad reviews are good. It shows your reviews are real.
LOL. I get ya, I usually type better, I need a manicure, my nails are too long right now and I keep hitting odd keys
Valerie
not you, her
Kristopher
not you, her
Valerie
ha ha! beat you
Shannon Hayes
I know.
Valerie
we are always like that
The word for word that is CREEPY
Kristopher
we finish each other sandwiches all the time
Valerie
that's what I was gonna say!
I'm guessing she starts and you snatch and dash?
Kristopher
No I just wait patiently for her to be done. Constantly asking "Are you done with that?" Helps.
I'm sure...
Oy I could ramble all night, can you give us some hints as to where the tales will be going in this second book?
Kristopher
Everybody dies
wait
Well obviously
Kristopher
We answer some pretty big questions. We came up with a bitchin' explanation about the zombies that I haven't seen done yet so I'm excited about that one
That will be something to look forward to. What do you think is the most fulfilling thing about writing a series, as opposed to a stand alone?
Valerie
As a reader, I barely read stand alones. I read like most people watch Netflix. I will get all the books in the series out from the library at once and binge read. It only made sense to write a series because i want the story to go on forever!
Kristopher
Its a bigger effort and a bigger reward. Before this I stuck mostly to short stories. This way we get more time to tell the story without expecting the reader to have to deal with a 250,000 word brick.
Valerie
That is why the ending is abrupt. We set a word count goal, and a place we felt was logical to pause. Otherwise the book would never end.
Shhhh... My debut novel started out at 140,000.... Needless to say I broke it down. Cliffhangers are a great opportunity to piss off a reader in a good way! Another author I know +Eri Nelson is wonderful with the hangers! It's like cliff diving! Only you still have your clothes on and you weren't really sure if you wanted to, but now that you're in the water and cooled off and still alive you're not so pissed you got tossed!
Kristopher
At least not until the last vestiges of humanity lay dying and an unimaginable horde of the living dead roamed the earth searching in vain for another victim
That would make a good ending...
Valerie
So optimistic Kristopher.
Kristopher
I should write that down
Yeah until the weather took care of them. You just did write it down.
Kristopher
lol
Do you guys work in relative silence or do you have a playlist of films or music you binge on when you write?
Kristopher
What is this "silence" of which you speak?
Valerie
I listen to the same 25 songs over and over. Drives Kris nuts. But that is a just in general kind of thing.
Kristopher
I tend to write a lot at work while I'm on lunch. Or in bed just before lights out. The only real distraction is Val's butt.
25 songs.... That's short. My playlists depending on the book range form 70-160 songs... But I don't sleep for days on end when I'm really writing.... Butts can do that!
Valerie
I write when everyone is asleep. I have insomnia, so at least I can be productive.
I just factory reset my phone and I am freaking out! I have to find the time to download them again.
Oh no! That would make me nuts, thankfully I use my iTunes, I have backups of backups.
Valerie
Kristopher
I have my Pandora station that I've been training for over ten years. I hate Bruno Mars
Valerie
Of course you do.
DO you guys have anything you agree on musically or authorly?
Kristopher
Were both scratching our heads right now... The guy form the Marc Maron show??? I think you mean Father John Misty
OY...
Valerie
We read the same books. Well, I read the books he has already read.
Favorite authors and musicians?
Valerie
Kristopher
Valerie
Yeah I heard Hamilton went downhill fast
Kristopher
I don't like King... Love his film adaptations but his writing style to me sucks. But that's me, most people love him.
Kristopher
Valerie
His endings piss me off. Tons of build up, then everyone dies.
Kristopher
Worst ending ever
YES! THAT'S IT..
Kristopher
But then again, I've read it about a dozen times... I just don't want him reading this and getting the wrong idea
I think that if he reads this I don't care how he feels about it. LOL I'd be pleased just to have him read it and comment. Even if it's just to say "You're wrong I am the greatest writer of the 20th and 21st century."
Valerie
Seriously. That would be sweet!
I tag everything I talk about, so who knows.. LOL
Do you guys have anything you'd like to share that we haven't covered?
Valerie
Yeah, we are going to be out and about at the Hamilton Mall on May 2nd for free comic day. Just in case anyone knows where that is. Come by and say Hello!
I am excited, it is going to be a nerdstraveganza! Since I am a giant nerd, it should be fun.
Oh That would be sweet. Too bad I'm so far way.
Kristopher
Ohio isn't that far
Valerie
I've driven further for ice cream. Just kidding, I hate ice cream
HOW CAN YOU hATE ICEcREAM!!! '
Kristopher
We talked about the characters, the writing process, teased the second book and I've managed to go the whole conversation without blurting out anything that could be misconstrued as racist... I think we're good
Smack
Valerie
Kris loves that I hate it. More for him. Seriously. He needs a muzzle sometimes.
Yay Ice Cream!
Kristopher
I have no idea what that means...
Valerie
This was really fun! I am so proud of Kristopher. He is really going outside of his comfort zone, You know, by talking to people.
It's a High Four!
Kristopher
lol okay now it makes sense. This was really fun. Thanks so much
Valerie
Our cat Chuck Norris just jumped up on my head.
This is my only means of conversation most days so I know how that goes.
Kristopher
Segue of the year babe
Valerie
I try. I went the whole time without being completely random. That is a big win for me. I am scatterbrained with the attention span of a fish.
You've earned your interview stripes with me. If you have an excerpt of the new book I wouldn't mind posting it for you. !!This has been great!
Kristopher
The new book is in really rough draft mode right now but as soon as its ready well send it your way.
That would be great and when you finish it I would be glad to read it for the 131 Preview Review!! I hope you two have a great night!!
Kristopher
You too. Take care
AND please don't forget to ship me along the rest of Aftershock, I'd love to finish it!
Valerie
Awesome! I will send it your way! You have a great night too!
I will email it now. Before I forget!
AWESOME!
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